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What caused this colour change?

For my 18th birthday I received a silver bracelet, with what I believed were amethyst or similar stones set into it.

However, the purple stones appeared blue under the flourescent lighting in the biology labs, and under another type of light seemed clear white. Once under sunlight the stones again appeared their normal purple colour. There was no gradual fade of colour - moving from one light to a window yielded instant change - and under normal lightbulbs the stones also appeared purple, and the same with any light mixed with sunshine.

Is this to do with how the stones were cut, how they reflect the light, or is the stone itself responsible?

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Eleanor

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Jon-Richfield says:

Please say more: "Another kind of light???"  "white?" Any hint as to what that light was?

 

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Jon

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posted on 2010-01-02 20:32:31 | Report abuse


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Jon-Richfield says:

 

Years ago my wife and I rode unambiguously vivid tomato red motorcycles. It happened to be the available colour. On a journey one night, we got onto a road illuminated by sodium discharge lamps that were popular in those days because they economically produced an intense yellow light. Nowadays street lights usually produce apparently white light; I don't know when I last saw a string of yellow lights at night. Mind you, most of the street lamp technologies currently in use do not produce true white, but a very spiky spectrum indeed. As far as our eyes can tell, it is white, but the effect on the appearance of something that reflects mainly colours that lie between the spikes, can be to make it look either dark or some unnatural colour. Beware of swearing to colours seen under streetlights or being too confident of correctly guessing at their colour as seen in sunlight.

Anyway, the effect on our driving vision was not obvious; certainly the outlook tended rather towards yellow, but that was not disturbing. In fact I would never have given it a thought, except that we soon noticed that the unambiguous tomato red of our mounts had given way to an equally unambiguous dove grey. The effect was so marked, that we stopped to inspect. There was no way to persuade our eyes that we were looking at anything remotely red. After a while we noticed that just a scrap of red showed on the mudguard where the headlight caught it. Otherwise the only way to "see red" was to turn our headlights on each other's vehicles.

By far the bulk of the light emitted from the lamps was sodium yellow with a hint of yellow green and a bit of whitish noise in various other colours. In contrast to the vivid sodium yellow, that little fraction of the light that reflected from our bikes, that otherwise no doubt would have looked simply grey, presumably gained a bias in favour of the colour opposite of yellow, giving it a bluish tone, hence the dove grey, rather than dead grey.

A related laboratory experience when I was working on the distribution of aerial sprays, involved looking through a microscope at coloured marks on white backgrounds. The pigments in use were chosen for their different solubilities and their contrasting colours. I chose red and green, which worked very well. Seen through a red filter, red marks simply vanished on the white background, while green marks looked blackly obtrusive. Looking through a green filter gave the opposite effect.

Very well.

Seen in daylight or under an ordinary incandescent light, your violet amethyst might very well look violet. You can create a very similar colour in ordinary glass by melting small impurities of manganese and possibly iron into it. You also might experiment by showing your amethyst to friends with various forms of red green colour blindness. I suspect that at least some of them would say that your amethyst is blue. I know someone who is red-green colour blind and sees red port wine jelly as blue. Only after he said so did I notice that in fact the jelly's red did have a blue tint. We could see your amethyst problem in a similar light. Daylight supplies all visible frequencies and the amethysts mainly pass blue and something more reddish, giving violet. Your laboratory fluorescent light probably supplies lots of blue and very little of the correct shades of red light.  Your other "kind of light" probably had one of those spiky spectra that favoured both colours but missed a lot of others. As amethyst is at most very weakly fluorescent, fluorescence is unlikely to have any serious influence. Amethyst being essentially slightly impure crystalline quartz, it does however have noticeable effects on the polarity of light, rotating the plane of polarisation and so on, but since the light sources you mention were not polarised, that is unlikely to have had much effect.

Enough for now. If you have any more information, let us know.

Go well,

Jon

 

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posted on 2010-01-03 15:27:40 | Report abuse


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kknowles says:

Hi there, Your stone is called Alexandrite, it is well known for "changing colour" under different types of light.  My high school class ring was made of alexandrite, and it baffled me too.  :)  See this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysoberyl#Alexandrite

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posted on 2010-08-11 19:21:42 | Report abuse


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