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Why do the eyes of a whale seem so much closer in size to those of humans than other body proportions?

It's claimed by some that eyes are diffraction limited at the small end. Are there any upper limits on the size of animal eyes?

Giant squid aside, how do eyes scale with body size?

As a correction to this question, some argue that the (non-compound) eye might have originally evolved as a "camera obscura" with a pinhole lens; more complex lenses may have then followed. Is there any physical limit on a pinhole lens that might have (historically) limited the size of an eye?

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Last edited on: 2010-02-13 21:34:39

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Jon-Richfield says:

I cannot give you any simple scaling rule, though it certainly is true that usually, small creatures have disproportionately large eyes. The eyes of mice tend to bulge conspicuously.

This applies even more strongly in creatures that when they are adult, have a given size of eye. It is difficult for most designs of eye to grow in constant proportion of size. So for example, small children often seem to be all eyes. It is not so much that one cannot make an eye small enough to fit a baby, but rather that if a baby had small eyes, it would not be easy to grow them larger.

In some insects, such as caterpillars, the larvae actually might be blind, or alternatively have very small eyes, such as half a dozen simple eyes, where as the adult moth might have comparatively huge eyes compromising tens of thousands of component eyes, each as complex as one of those simple eyes. But in such life histories, the entire organ very nearly gets restructured from scratch in between those two stages.

It certainly is true that in a very small eyes there are limits to what one can do with light, but when you see what tiny creatures can have perfectly functional eyes, you soon realise that the limiting factors are not so much the fundamental physics, as the practical structure.

Exactly why squid have such enormous eyes, I do not know. It might well have something to do with their habit of sheltering deep and rising to the surface only at night. But otherr animals have similar habits, so that cannot be the whole story. Squid also are short-lived creatures, so their eyes need not last more than a year or two. Possibly they simply have eyes built on a scheme that permits easier scaling than our eyes, so why not grow them large if it happens to be useful?

Whales however have the normal mammalian constraints, and there is little visual advantage for them to have large eyes, besides which lucky whales live long, and to be lucky you don't want large, vulnerable eyes. In summary, their eyes cannot easily grow large, and they don't need to be very large, and if they did grow large, they would be too vulnerable.

Or so it seems to me.  

Cheers,

Jon

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posted on 2010-02-09 10:40:17 | Report abuse

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DanCooper says:

Thanks for responding. I was thinking more in terms of physics, but you brought up some good biology points.

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posted on 2010-02-13 21:56:39 | Report abuse


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Paul_Pedant says:

[ Did Jon Richfield sleep in today? ]

Basically, the optics of the eye are not scaleable. The lens has to be a fairly gooey transparent substance, and there are probably few choices of solute in the watery base. If the dilution of the lens material is high (i.e. close to pure water) then the refractive index is probably subject to greater fluctuations. So the physics of refraction dictates the front-to-back eye dimension quite strictly.

There is no gained advantage in a larger eye, and the disadvantages would include more weight, a bigger external area that could be damaged, a decrease in the skull capacity, and a lens that sags slightly under gravity and distorts the image.

Animals with small skulls give up a huge proportion of the skull capacity to have eyes as large as they can. A cat's eyes barely fit in. An owl turns its head because its eyes have no room to rotate in its skull. Smaller animals make do with monochrome vision, poorer resolution, no night vision, or composite non-moveable non-focus eyes.

I did read once that a hawk could read a newspaper from 1000 feet up. Smart hawks they have nowadays - probably South African.

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posted on 2010-02-09 10:42:25 | Report abuse

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DanCooper says:

I've heard some sleep researchers claim a positive correlation between hours slept and cognitive ability. For instance, 7-9 hours of sleep tended to produce different results than 4-6 hours, and people tending towards greater analysis (however defined) tended to have greater drop-offs in performance with a given amount of sleep deprivation. Being from an Ivy League or Oxbridge sort of place probably isn't a guarantee of correctness, but the researchers did conjecture that politicians, businesspeople, and others who often boasted of getting by on limited sleep may be less analytical than others. I'm not a psychologist or physioloigist, just an interested amateur. There are also claims that multi-tasking produces similar effects as going without sleep or using drugs like marihuana; however, not being familiar with the details of these studies, some caution may be warranted.

As for the main question about eye size, there's an interesting chapter on lower size limits for eyes in the first volume of THE FEYNMAN LECTURES ON PHYSICS; I was just curious why animals don't seem (unless I'm missing something) to have Keck telscope eyes. You brought up a good point: How do birds of prey see things from great distances, or is this exaggerated?

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