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could hallucinogenic plants have evolved to use hallucinogenic effects to their advantage?

 

eg possibly they would gain from the contents of vomit - spreading the spores. this would presumably apply only to the ones that look 'innocent' (& taste ok).

 

 

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  • Asked by neilbdm
  • on 2010-03-07 00:57:28
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Last edited on: 2010-03-20 13:55:00

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Tags: evolution, mushroom, hallucinogenic, plant, vomit.

 

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MikeAdams#367 says:

Evolution doesn't have a 'purpose'. Generally; changes that take place, and which offer an advantage, tend to be kept: those that are not an advantage tend to be lost. (Right now 200 evolutionary biologists are sharpening their pencils to pick apart that statement, but it is a reasonable description).

So, the hallucinogenic chemicals probably provide some defense to the fungi.  If they have a hallucinogenic effect on other species is not clear. Certainly spiders given drugs, such as LSD, are influenced and create abnormal webs but, since the effect is not immediate, it might not be a deterrent anyway.  

Many hallucinogens are alkaloids, and these usually have a bitter taste. It may be that it is the taste that is the deterrent, the hallucinogenic aspect may be accidental.

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posted on 2010-03-15 20:06:29 | Report abuse

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neilbdm says:

 

Thanks for the correction to my sloppy use of language; it’s easy for an amateur to lapse, & I realize the distinction’s important.

If I rephrase, along the lines of my other question, “could poisonous mushrooms have evolved to kill?” (which I would like to change to “could poisonous plants have evolved to kill?”), it would read “could hallucinogenic plants have evolved to use hallucinogenic effects to their advantage?”

So what I’m suggesting, with both questions, is that these effects aren’t accidental, & that the plant gains somehow. After all, plenty of plants taste nasty, without these effects. In the case of mushrooms, you have a mycelium, which might be gaining (eg from minerals – cf insect-eating plants).

Apparently reindeer are very keen on fly agaric…

 

 

 

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posted on 2010-03-20 13:35:57 | Report abuse

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Georg says:

Generally; changes that take place, and which offer an advantage, tend to be kept: those that are not an advantage tend to be lost.

 

Hello Mike adams,

I prefer the wording :

Generally; changes that take place, and which do not offer a disadvantage, tend to be kept: Later such changes can show advantages or disadvantages.

Georg

 

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posted on 2010-11-07 16:49:22 | Report abuse


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zoo.inertia says:

Considering the above. I'd question the size of the animal.

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posted on 2010-03-21 13:30:13 | Report abuse


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