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Does an erupting volcano (or any other natural means) have sufficient power to throw life supporting mass into space?

We assume that life possibly came to Earth through the landing of a relatively large body of mass from somewhere else in the cosmos.  Could the inverse happen?  Could a large volcano (or any other natural means such as storm pressures or atmospheric disruptions), have sufficient energy and force to eject material from our planet (no matter how small a fragment, but sufficient to contain and protect bacteria) to send life onto somewhere else (no matter how improbable)?  Could Earth be a staging post in life's spread further across the universe?

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Jon-Richfield says:

That is a massive assumption and not attractive, but fortunately it has little to do with the question. So:

"Could a large volcano (or any other natural means such as storm pressures or atmospheric disruptions), have sufficient energy and force to eject material from our planet"

Volcanoes are not well designed for efficiently ejecting small items at really high speeds; they do better at scattering large volumes of material into tropospheric or low-to-mid-stratospheric altitudes.  It would take a sizable coincidence (some particle or other catching just the right splash just right), but conceivably it could happen. A less comfortable problem is how happily life could hitch-hike a ride. Most of the stuff that our volcanoes throw particularly high is volcanic, mainly fresh volcanic at that. Recently molten in fact! The chances of anything alive being on anything that a volcano throws more than a few hundred metres, are pretty poor.

"(no matter how improbable)?"

If you are willing to settle for indefinite improbability, then why hesitate? Why not just posit quantum tunneling?  A blue whale and its surrounding bubble of water, plus enough water could tunnel into space, and by coincidence the fluids don't escape from around it. It might take a bit of a coincidence, but that is just a matter of improbability, not impossibility. If you claimed to have evidence that it actually had happened, but refused to release your data because they were proprietory, and the people requesting the figures were looking for something wrong with them, who could complain?

"Could Earth be a staging post in life's spread..."

For sure!  It wouldn't even require an improbable volcano. An obligingly-aimed comet impact could do the trick. On Earth we already have found material from Mars and Luna that seems to have been splashed by impacts, and that might have had a fairly soft ride. To do the same thing with bits of our own planetary crust would need a bigger bang, but nothing as challenging as tunneling a whale. For all we know, our most recent dino-killer might already have done the trick.

If you are interested in such matters, try an Internet search.  Use "panspermia" as a search term. It is a popular subject.  If you find any sites mentioning "Richfield" ignore those; he seems to be a know-it-all-sceptic who rains on panspermian parades. Doesn't swallow blue whales at all, nor even potted geraniums. He even coughs at bacteria!

 

Happy propagation!

 

Jon

 

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posted on 2010-03-08 14:13:56 | Report abuse

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Alex.Stavrinides says:

 

Hi Jon.

Thanks for the reply.  The references to Adams have amused me.  Although I am sure you can tell I’m not assuming the organic material would be whales (at least not again), the bacterial route had been the mechanism in mind.  The assumption that organic material can be ejected from the Earth was more in the thought of material being ejected at speeds exceeding the escape velocity through the atmosphere and having the ability to collect organic material (“hitch hikers”) as it left our atmosphere, rather than life originating from the volcano.  Thermophiles do have the ability for extreme temperatures although living on molten rock sure has to be out of the comfort zone.

In terms of meteor splash, it does seem more probable that this mechanism of transfer is more likely, although as the solar system ages the chances of a collision diminish (condensation and capture of the majority of the free material from early solar system) and inverse to the colonisation of life on our planet.  As life may, or has been transferred in this manner, the chances of transfer must surely be greater today for any given collision as the biosphere has more variability in the bacterial content for survival in space (although still slim) although less due to the more remote chance of a sufficiently sized mass hitting us. 

In terms of volcanic ejection, our planetary mass is not in our favour, in comparison Enceladus where is if far more plausible for life supporting mass to be transferred due to much lower gravitation pull.  With this in mind, what is the probability of life leaving our planet today with the abundance of organic material our planet currently supports (assuming my reason for missing work tomorrow isn’t either a meteor or a whale hitting Liverpool)?

 

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