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Does the body use more water and calories when it has more?

Some time ago I was riding old bicycle when the chain broke. I managed to roll 10 kilometres (150 metres down) on a former railroad trail so I got almost to my point of destination without having to get off and push. But it was very slow. I think the weight of my bag helped me. There were tools in it (unfortunately, none to repair a chain) but also 1,5 litres of water and some apples and sandwiches. I was afraid to comsume any during the rolling part not only because I was unwilling to stop the mostion but also because I thought it might reduce the weight. Would it? There was no toilet on the way, so the question is: wuold my body have breathed out more CO2 and breathed and sweated out more water if it had got more? I was not critically hungry or thirsty at that time, just a bit.

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petethebloke says:

First: you'd have needed very sensitive scales to measure a difference between the total mass of bike-plus-food-plus-you and bike-plus-you-with-food-inside.

Second: the loss of the mass of the food and drink wouldn't stop the bike rolling (though halting to release ballast might have made it awkward to re-start). In fact, it's possible that the extra mass would slow the bike down due to extra friction - particularly if the tyres were a bit soft.

I'm trying to imagine where else you could lose mass from the system (if you ate the food and drank the water) and can only come up with sweat and increased exhalation of the waste gases of respiration. When you are dehydrated and still hot, drinking copious amounts of water certainly allows extra sweating. Assuming the sweat is able to evaporate then it would be lost from the "system" (i.e. the total of you-bike-food-water). Eating normally sets off an increase in metabolic rate because the food must be digested and absorbed, which requires an input of energy, but this is not going to tax your body too much while you are sitting on a free-wheeling bike. If the first part of the bike ride was very vigorous then your muscles would be undergoing some maintenance and cleaning-out routines. This might require the consumption of some energy, but might  yield some energy if lactate is oxidised. Either way, the net loss of mass through increased CO2 exhalation would be minuscule.

I'm sure you had plenty of time to enjoy your surroundings anyway!

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posted on 2010-07-19 12:05:50 | Report abuse

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Jon-Richfield says:

The only thing I can add to Pete's remarks is that some years ago a local science teacher was badly embarrassed on the occasion of a school fete. Someone had suggested a downhill soapbox race. Someone else had objected because heavier boys would be at an advantage. My friend the teacher pityingly explained why this was nonsense, but could not convince his colleagues and the rest of the committee, so they had a demonstration run. All very scientific.

That was where, so to speak, the wheels came off.

No matter how carefully he controlled the conditions, the heaviest boys had the fastest runs by broad margins. Accordingly it seems likely to me that Pete might be wrong in principle (I agree with him about the scale of the differences involved) about extra weight possibly slowing down the bike, though I accept it might be correct in fact.

As for why my friend's prediction did not work, in the face of well established predictions in accordance with principles of applied maths, the only variable that I can think of is the rotational inertia of the soapbox wheels, but I am not fully satisfied that they could explain  the entire discrepancy.

Comments welcome!

Jon

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posted on 2010-07-19 17:08:01 | Report abuse


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BarfieldMV says:

Downwards gravity is about 9.8 m/s/s. That means that if you fall straight down without any friction you'd be falling with a downwards speed of about 10 meters per second after falling a second.

As we can all remember a kilo of feathers has the same gravity as a kilo of lead.

Riding your bike downhill has nothing to do with the total weight but everything to do with the friction the wheels put on the ground and the friction the air give to the person riding the bike.

My personal opinion is that if you loose weight you'll probably go a bit faster because your wheels will be having less friction on the road, depending on how hard your wheels are this might change a couple of % of total riding time.

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posted on 2010-07-20 16:08:35 | Report abuse


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ecstatist says:

Let us view this situation from first priciples.

A falling body will accelerate at 9.8m/s/s until the frictional drag (force) equals the "force of gravity"(F=ma or F=mg). This is called "terminal velocity".

So notice that the mass of the object is relevant or another way of thinking about it, is that the heavier object has more "potential energy" (=mgh).

Take an extreme example of a feather falling (obviously very slowly) - now add a small lead weight (which does not significantly add more skin drag/friction), the feather will reach a much higher terminal velocity QED.

I have sacrificed pedantry for succintness, but if one wishes for a more rigorous and interesting (but not totally analogous) approach see

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lift-to-drag_ratio

Bear in mind that glider (sailplane) pilots will intentionally (though counter-intuitively) add mass in the form of water to their aircraft when the regions of uplift are significantly greater than best still air sink rate of their aircraft.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glider_%28sailplane%29

 

 

 

 

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posted on 2010-07-22 23:21:20 | Report abuse


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petethebloke says:

That's a well-made point, in answer to Jon's anecdote, but if you drop a weight, with a weight attached, you don't get much increase in velocity (I would say "any increase", but there's always a chance). The original question doesn't really suggest air-resistance being a major factor - it sounds like the bike was barely moving.

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posted on 2010-07-23 10:10:51 | Report abuse


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