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What causes old/weak animals to leave the herd?

Older and weaker animals sometimes leave the herd. What is it in their brain that triggers this behavior?

Is there a link with human depression?

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Jon-Richfield says:

How much of a link there might be with depression I cannot say; I suspect that the variety of reasons for such behaviour in nature is too wide for simple generalisations of such a type.

 

Part of the problem is that there are many forms of herd behaviour.  Elephant herds for example generally are very stable and loss of a member is traumatic. Other than a herd being scattered by a disaster, if a member deserts the herd it would be because it had become too weak to keep up and the herd too pressured to wait. Possibly that might lead to some form of or analogy to depression. However, many other kinds of social aggregations are far more competitive or exclusive, such as male lions being forced out of their prides by younger, stronger, or more numeroud usurpers. No particular mental trigger is needed in their situation, unless you count: "These #$%^&s are to tough for us to handle; let's get out of here!"  Or: "Those old incumbents are too tough for us, let's try to crash another harem." 

 

Commonly any old survivor of say a herd of grazers will not survive long enough to leave the herd, because predators are alert for the first sign of weakness, but if they do, the line of though might most likely be the likes of: "I feel tired and lousy; staying with these guys is no longer any good. I'll go off for a rest."

 

Get the idea? Not that I pretend that my presentation is any more than a Just-So story, but to a prepared mind Just-So stories are valuable in themselves.

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posted on 2010-11-25 19:52:13 | Report abuse


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Georg says:

Older and weaker animals sometimes leave the herd.

 

The cause of that is that this fits into the scheme of

"Preferred Urban Legend Ingredients".

One documented example for such behaviour is

that some (all?) female herd animals leave the herd to

drop their young.

Georg

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posted on 2010-11-28 14:19:26 | Report abuse


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Jon-Richfield says:

Well Georg, while I agree that some reserve on generalisation is proper, I think there are counter-examples, among which elephants are prominent. Commonly the cows in the herd will rally round and protect a female giving birth. Some species of migratory antelopes, such as brindled gnu, practically drop their young on the move and get back on the move very quickly indeed.

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posted on 2010-11-29 09:35:16 | Report abuse

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Georg says:

Hello Jon,

I think that elephants will defend their young even long after birth, don't they?

But does a elephant which is dieing really leave the herd?

I think elephants are the only animals not attacked by predators

even when old/ill. This means, they will lay down in such a case and

stay behind. And the herd will wait for such an elephant, at least for

some days.

Whereas the herds of thousands of gnus and gazelles and zebras

(often mixed!)

wont defend a member, they dont have a real "social" coherence.

Defending someone is not their practice.

Am I right?

Georg

 

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posted on 2010-11-29 18:43:07 | Report abuse


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