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How cold does it have to be for pee to freeze instantly?

I wince at the thought, but is it possible, given a low enough temperature, for urine to freeze instantly into an icicle if you're caught short in Arctic conditions. If so, how cold would it have to be? and could it be dangerous for an intrepid explorer? 

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Jon-Richfield says:

Firstly, there is the question of what you mean by "instantly". I should not be surprised if one could pee frozen droplets over an Antarctic cliff, but I would have to see it to believe in hard pee pellets pattering onto one's boots.

I suspect that Jack London's "To build a fire" was drawn from life, but he referred to spit at errr... letsee.. about -60C. Spittle is generally more dilute and frothy than urine, so it falls more slowly and freezes faster.

I understand that Mythbusters demonstrated that urine did not freeze in urination at -70C, but I did not see that show myself, so I cannot comment with any cofidence.  There certainly are a lot of nonsensical claims of pee freezing in the air at -40C, but these are rightly scoffed at by people who have routinely experienced such temperatures (and lower) without even spittle freezing in its passage through the air.

For my part I reckon that it is a traveller's tale, but bear in mind that your pee does not have to freeze to cause penile frostbite, which has been documented in, if I remember correctly, the New England Journal of Medicine in the 1970s in a medical doctor doing a morning jog in snowy weather with too little insulation beneath his tracksuit.

 

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posted on 2010-12-03 15:33:28 | Report abuse


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petethebloke says:

Don't urinate against anything metal - I once heard of a nasty incident involving a metal dustbin.

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posted on 2010-12-06 13:28:21 | Report abuse


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Jon-Richfield says:

Sound advice true, but of course it is nearly independent of ambient temperatures.  ;-O

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posted on 2010-12-06 16:42:41 | Report abuse


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