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What happens gravitationally, whne you dig through the centre of the earth?

Imagine it is possible for a human to dig vertically down from the surface of the earth? Straight down for the core, ignoring the heat and larva etc. What would happen as the digger neared the core and how would they transition from go down to suddenly going up as they headed for Australia? WHat would happen to the dirt? Would they be standing over a huge hole as they headed past the core?

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  • Asked by martynl
  • on 2010-12-22 20:19:07
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petethebloke says:

Even the caterpillars? Can't we talk to the caterpillars?

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posted on 2010-12-22 21:13:55 | Report abuse


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rob.stass says:

Theoretically, The gravitational force decreases linearly as you dig down. This means that for every meter down you dig the force of gravity decreases by a set amount. This happens until you reach the centre, at which point there is no net gravitational force (Sort of weightless, so you would float a bit like you were in space). There wouldn't be a sudden switch over as you pass the centre because the force has already decreased so much that it's not noticed. Then as you claw your way back up to Australia the gravitational force will increase linearly. (Now before lots of people jump on my back, the decrease/increase may not be completely linear due to the absence of dirt in the recently dug hole and the varying densities and smoothness of the earth but that gets a bit complicated) 

There is a famous thought experiment about someone jumping into a whole that passes straight through the earth. They accelerate towards the centre and then decelerate until they just reach the opposite surface. Then they accelerate back towards the centre again. Assuming no air resistance they would oscillate for ever.

Back to the digger, the dirt would be a problem to shift. You would need to do work to overcome the gravitational force other wise the dirt would collect at the centre.

Obviously, the earth's core is molten making all this impossible but it would be interesting to try out on the moon.  

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posted on 2010-12-23 18:18:48 | Report abuse

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Jon-Richfield says:

Generally OK, but one simple point that is simple and worth bearing in mind, is that your weight actually increases to a maximum somewhere near the point where you pass the interface between the core and mantle. Only then does it begin to decrease till you reach zero at the planetary centre of mass.

After that the history begins to reverse itself until you reach the surface again and you start to recycle tediously, like variations on this question...

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posted on 2010-12-23 18:46:56 | Report abuse

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Georg says:

Obviously, the earth's core is molten making all this impossible but it would be interesting to try out on the moon. 

No,

even on the moon the pit would be comressed and shrink  by

the tremendous pressure.

Such an experiment might be possible on a rocky moon

or asteroid with much lower diameter than the moon has.

Georg

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posted on 2010-12-23 19:48:32 | Report abuse


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Paul_Pedant says:

I just spooked myself rather badly.

I wondered why Jon and Rob disagreed about the rate at which g goes down as you descend below Earth's surface.

I used about 40% of an envelope to show that, inside a sphere of uniform density, g does decrease linearly to zero as you descend (but I could be wrong). The basic premise is the the matter above your location forms a series of hollow shells, each of which has zero net effect on your weight. Your weight goes down proportional to r-cubed because that's the distribution of matter in a sphere, and it goes up with r-squared as you get closer to the centre of gravity, and the net result is that it decreases linearly with r.

So I assume Jon's non-linearity is a function of density distribution in the various strata, and I am cool with that because I don't have any data, but I would expect crustal rock to be around 2.5 and the iron core to be around 8.0 to 10.0 (under huge pressure), so a considerable effect could be expected.

Then I thought about dark matter and dark energy, and the observed fact that, at galactic scales, the force of gravity seems to suddenly revert from r-squared to r-linear.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modified_Newtonian_dynamics

And I thought "Maybe universal gravity isn't true". Newton did intuit that universal law from a rather restricted domain, after all. Maybe intergalactic space is actually 2-D, and it's only the big lumps of matter that make it go 3-D. It could all just be a huge pop-up book!

 

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posted on 2010-12-24 16:23:23 | Report abuse

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Jon-Richfield says:

Good Grief Chris!

 

You should have a gov't health warning tattooed on your forehead! Fancy popping up with your damned pop-up book at this season, when hangovers are rife and rifening, and innocents might still be sober enough to read what you said, without being sober enough to remember that it probably doesen't matter a damn anyway!

You would be a great comfort at cremations I am sure, discussing the relative merits of various barbie recipes for gamey meat, right? I come from a family with a reputation for excessive tactlessness, that practically ejected me for excessive tactlessness, but some people in this forum...

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posted on 2010-12-25 11:26:51 | Report abuse


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