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Will all our clocks be fast when we switch from analgue broadcasting to digital?

I'm listening to a digital radio broadcast over the internet. Downstairs I can here the same programme on an analogue radio. There is a clear time difference, very noticeable when the time pips came on for the news. Which version of the time should I set I set my clock to - digital or analogue? My watch is radio controlled by the National Physics Laboratory - which time is that set to?

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petethebloke says:

My analogue pips come before my digital pips, so my watch would be slow, not fast, if I was unwise enough to set it by the digital signal.

 

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posted on 2011-01-05 17:39:32 | Report abuse


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tbrucenyc says:

Digital is famous for "latentcy".

HD channels are delayed  from standard cable of the same channel here where I live.

This time site would encounter the time delay of the web, but it says it's within .2 seconds, so maybe it measures the delay before sending you the time, and corrects for it.

http://www.time.gov/timezone.cgi?Eastern/d/-5/java

You can change the time zone.

 

 

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posted on 2011-01-07 19:59:29 | Report abuse


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Georg says:

This is the official time:

http://www.npl.co.uk/science-technology/time-frequency/time/products-and-services/msf-radio-time-signal

So, Your radio controlled "watch"  is not set to something,

it is the time by law for the UK.

Georg

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posted on 2011-01-07 22:23:34 | Report abuse

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posted on 2011-01-08 18:06:48 | Report abuse

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Georg says:

Hello tbrucenyc,

I asked that myself too,

Another try:

http://www.npl.co.uk/science-technology/time-frequency/time/products-and-services/msf-radio-time-signal

 

Georg

PS

There is a button "Link" in the headline of the editor

(symbolized by some chain links)

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posted on 2011-01-08 18:49:31 | Report abuse

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tbrucenyc says:

I had not seen the link/unlink buttons before.

When a link is done that way we can specify that it open in a new window. I think that's more "polite".

(The link buttons don't work until something is high-lighted... odd.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMPTE_time_code

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posted on 2011-01-10 23:13:30 | Report abuse


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ecstatist says:

There is a "digital" delay compared to "analog" received RF signal even if they are sent at the same time. This is because your digital receiver "buffers" (stores) an image of the received signal so that it can check for errors and build up a correct image using information distributed (timewise) in the received signal. The digital signal contains more information than the minimum amount  required exactly for this purpose.

This would not apply to a receiver that uses a dedicated time frequency (such as a simple self correcting watch which uses error detection but not error correction, maybe  more sophisticated watches/clocks will correct errors but it also allows for the delay in correction calculations) The simple watch will ignore an erroneous signal and wait for the next correct signal)

Good GPSs will even allow for the transmission time difference due to the distance from the satellite that it is referencing from. Some will average the reference from multiple satellites.

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posted on 2011-01-08 02:50:28 | Report abuse


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Penguino257 says:

There are two main causes for the difference in timing between analogue and digital radio and TV signals.

The main cause, which is true of all digital transmissions, is that digital signals are all encoded in some way, so the transmitter has to encode the signal for broadcast and the receiver has to decode the received signal before playing it to you.

You can actually see this effect in action if you have an analogue radio, a cheap DAB radio and a more expensive DAB radio all tuned to the same station.

The analogue radio will play the signal first, then the more expensive DAB set, then the cheaper DAB set. The difference in DAB sets is due to better sets having faster processors that decode the signal faster.

The second only applies if you are getting the digital signal from a satellite, in that case the difference is caused by the longer path of the signal travelling up to a satellite in geo-stationary orbit then back to Earth. This is the cause of the 'satellite lag' you sometimes see in live news broadcasts where the two locations are linked via satellite feeds.

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posted on 2011-01-09 21:05:20 | Report abuse


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