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How many lottery tickets would have to be bought for there to be a >=50% probablility that every single possible combination has been chosen?  Or for smaller numbers how many people would you need in a room for there to be a >=50% probability that every day of the year is one or more of these people's birthdays?  

If these numbers are too large then how many people/tickets would be needed that there is a >=50% probability that >=50% of the lottery tickets/birthdays have been chosen?

Assume that birthdays and lottery tickets are chosen at random and not bunched, and forget about leap years to keep things slightly simpler.

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LokiNight says:

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Hi Bob ~ 6 numbers chosen from 49 numbers ?

There are 13,983,816 [49! / (6! × (49 - 6)!)] ways to choose 6/49

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** IF you can select your 6 numbers for each ticket, then obviously you will select a different combination for each ticket:

You will have to buy 13,983,816 / 2 =

6,991,908 tickets to have a 50% chance of hitting the winning combination

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** IF you can't select your 6 numbers for each ticket (you buy the tickets from a randomising machine):

If you buy y random tickets the chance that you don't win is 13,983,815/13,983,816 multiplied by itself y times = p^y

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TO RESTATE YOUR QUESTION:

How often you have to multiply 0.99999992848876 by itself to reach 0.5 ?

log (0.5) / log (0.99999992848876) = 9,692,842

The answer is 9,692,843 lottery tickets

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Michael

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posted on 2011-01-23 01:54:52 | Report abuse

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petethebloke says:

Without checking the maths, that looks like a good answer Loki... but not to the question asked.

Bob said: How many lottery tickets would have to be bought for there to be a >=50% probablility that every single possible combination has been chosen?

This implies that he wants to know how many tickets need to be purchased (presumably with random numbers) in order that ALL the combinations are covered. He wants a certainty level of 50%.

For a start, you could purchase 13,983,816 tickets, but there is a high probability that one set of numbers occurs twice.

Just using intuition, say you purchased n-1 (13,983,815) tickets and they were all different, the chance of you getting the correct set on the last purchase is the same as the chance of winning the jackpot.

The maths is beyond me at this time of night. I'll go and think about it.

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posted on 2011-01-23 20:48:00 | Report abuse


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LokiNight says:

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Hi again Bob ~ This is how I've interpreted your question:

** There are 365 days in the year

** I invite strangers randomly from the street into a party

** I write down their birthdays (the birth year doesn't matter)

QUESTION: How many people would I need at the party to have a 50% chance that ALL the dates of the year are written down ?

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My guesswork:

If 365 people were at the party it would be very unlikely that I would have 365 different birthdays

To get 365 different birthdays (the year of birth doesn't matter) I estimate off the top of my head that I would need 1,200 people to have a 50% chance that ALL 365 possible birthdays are present

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However I asked the question on a mathematical forum & I got this reply:

365 [1 + 1/2 + 1/3 + ... + 1/365] = 2,364.6 guests needed at the party

See here for the full details:

http://www.mymathforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=18519

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Michael (I don't think my guess was too bad, but thanks must go to a.s.woods at the above link)

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posted on 2011-01-23 08:37:11 | Report abuse

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petethebloke says:

I've only just read this answer - after posting my reply above. You'll need to apply the same technique to the lottery tickets Loki. A BIG number will come out!

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posted on 2011-01-23 20:51:15 | Report abuse

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petethebloke says:

Loki

I'm no mathematician, but I think your chum at the other forum has forgotten to include the 50% stipulation.

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posted on 2011-01-24 10:06:28 | Report abuse


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casinolover says:

You can check all the probabilities on the lottery checker website. You can aslo find related info on probabilities, odds and stuff like that

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posted on 2011-10-10 12:18:34 | Report abuse


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