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This is an example typical of many of your questions: you have a phenomenon, you have asked yourself why this or that, but when you find that your answer makes no sense in terms of your question, you don't check on the assumptions behind the question. Instead it is the answer that puzzles you! Who said that the phone works by transmitting sound?Sound only travels about 330 m/s. If phones worked by sound, then it would take about sixteen for you to hear what someone in Hawaii said on the phone. Instead you hear him practically at once! In an electric wire electricity might be seen from certain points of view to travel at the speed of light (never mond the technical details; it is close enough for jazz!) Now, suppose  you have an electric circuit attached to an electromagnet  holding up a 1 kg lump of metal 1 m above the ground, and you have another kg in your hand 1 m above the ground. You switch off the power and drop your weight at the same time. Both weights hit the ground together. Although the wires are about 330 metres long, they ey are not straight, so one weight falls on one toe and the other on the other toe.   OK?   Now Your wie wasn't throwing any weights; how come that it dropped the weight on your toe so quickly?   Now, because your toes are hurting, you decide not to do that again, right? So instead you straighten out the wire so that this time that weight at least will mis syour toe. And while you drop the other weight on your toe again, you triumphantly watch the electromaget's weight drop 330 m away at the same time as your weight hits your other toe again.   OK? Sort of?   And yet, though you can see and feel that they drop at the same time, you only hear the distant one drop a second later!   How come?
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RY4N says:

Im struggling to understand the idea, and for a start do not have any knowledge of an electromagnet. its a magnet powered by electristy? and the wires, wires inside the electromagnet or wires externaly? could you say that in a tad more simplicity :)

i understand about wires and the speed of transmission in them, i understand the speed of sound,

'you triumphantly watch the electromaget's weight drop 330 m away at the same time as your weight hits your other toe again.'

So, originally you have both the weights close together with wire 330m long but not in a straight line. and after you straighten the line so that the weights are 330m apart and the line is straight, i think i understand that. But what has that to do with being on the phone to someone. i do think i understand but am a little unsure.

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posted on 2011-03-05 17:33:19 | Report abuse


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Jon-Richfield says:
As for what an electromagnet is Ryan, try:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnet

As usual, let us know if that is a problem. It was to do with one of the most important demonstrations in the history of technology: Michael Faraday showed that an electric current could move magnets, and magnets could move electric currents. Big deal! Great big hairy deal!!! Couldn't please expensive damfool scientists do something useful with all the money and time they waste?

And yet, that demonstration in the end formed the basis for every electric bell, every electric motor, the every telephone, every dynamo, every practical television set or computer you ever saw or heard of.

It would not be possible for you to take a cent or a billion dollars to the nearest shop to buy anything that was not affected by that discovery, whether a blade of grass or a Boeing.

But never mind that; do a quick survey at school and see what percentage of the people you know, whether pupils or teachers, think that such things are anything but boring and irrelevant.

Anyway, you are quite right; yes an electromagnet is in fact a means by which you can use magnetism at a distance to move things, and do so pretty quickly; far more quickly than sending a servant or a dog to do it, or even shouting at someone to do it.

But yes, you have the general idea. By switching the current where you are, you can make sounds at a distance, far faster than you can send the sounds that distance. The electric current carried the necessary information to make the sounds; it did not carry the sounds themselves. If you can grab that idea, you have it made.

Leave it at that for now. If you could master the idea of surface tension as you did, I am sure that you can master the idea of sending information rather than sending a vibration through the air. I doubt that you would ever want to read a book called “The Sirens of Titan” by Kurt Vonnegut, but he wrote about the grandest theme along those lines that ever I read.

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posted on 2011-03-06 13:49:24 | Report abuse


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Paul6240 says:

Jon peaked my magnetic vibes with his list of magnet uses.My son worked in the magnet production business, in China,for several years.  I must tell you about a company here inNorfolk, VA USA that makes water "cleaners" by passing thewater over an array of cheap ceramic magnets.  His units areused in commercial Air Cond. systems and steam boilers to prevent scale buildup.  Given some time existing scale willbe 'reasorbed' by the system.  The highly advertised devicesthat are a clamp on the pipe unit are nothing.Here is the web address for Descal-a-matic.  See  commentsof many users.

http://www.descal-a-matic.com/   They ship worldwide

One company that bottles drinking water, the craze, put oneof the company's units before a large reverse osmosis filter.The life of this expensive filter was extended quite a bit.

A Google search of desca-a-matic will give interesting hits.

Paul

 

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posted on 2012-01-10 02:59:11 | Report abuse


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